I rarely react when I hear that a celebrity has died. Often, it is authors that affect me more than actors or musicians. But Robert Redford was probably my mother’s favourite actor, partially (hah!) influenced by looks. And so I react a little more knowing that she would have been said to hear of his passing at 89 years. (Although she liked Paul Newman more, I think).
For me, I don’t have strong views about his role as a director… Ordinary People, The Horse Whisperer, and the Legend of Bagger Vance were all enjoyable, but didn’t move me deeply. Equally, I don’t have strong attachments to any of the movies he produced.
But his acting chops? IMDB has 82 entries as an actor for Redford, and I’ve likely seen about a quarter to a third. More in the middle than the beginning or end of his career.
Like most viewers, I probably noticed him for the first time not in his TV episodes but in the movie Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. Obviously not in 1969 at its first release, since I was only 1yo at the time, but in subsequent reruns on TV. I’ve never seen The Candidate (1972) from start to finish, only bits and pieces. My mom loved The Way We Were (1973).
But The Sting (1973) is one that I think I actually saw at the drive-in with my siblings when I was only five. I’m not kidding. I remember the bicycle scene and the song (Raindrops keep falling on my head…). I’ve probably seen it front to back about three times, and another ten times in bits and pieces on TV runs.
I found Three Days of the Condor (1975) too confused, even after seeing it when I was in my teens. And I have to confess, I found All the President’s Men (1976) way too slow. I’ve survived it once, and perhaps watched bits and pieces here and there another two-three times. Great story, way too slow of a movie.
I enjoyed The Electric Horseman (1979), although it was a bit campy. I remember finding Brubaker (1980) quite dark, although outside of the basic plot of a prison warden cleaning up a prison, I remember almost none of the movie.
But 1984 brought out The Natural, the best that ever was. That’s a direct quote from the movie about baseball player Roy Hobbs, where all he wants is to walk down a street someday and have someone say, “There goes Roy Hobbs. The best that ever was”. It may not be the best movie of all time, but I think it may arguably be the best role that Redford ever played. So subtle in places it’s staggering.
I know that many people consider Out of Africa (1985) as the best movie of his career, but I found it soporific. I have never made it through from start to finish without falling asleep.
Yet I have no credibility at all. Legal Eagles (1986) was a light version of a courtroom drama, with near RomComAction on high alert. Darryl Hannah was relatively fresh off Splash and Clan of the Cave Bear, and despite playing a kook, she just came off as a kook. Spaced out and hardly present. By contrast, Debra Winger was just coming off An Officer and a Gentleman and Terms of Endearment, and I thought she was awesome. The movie is not great, I won’t lie, but I really enjoyed the three of them together. I wanted a better editor, but well, I enjoyed it anyway.
Sneakers (1992) is really quite popular with certain age groups, and while I enjoyed it, the plot was weak with quite a few scenes straining the suspension of disbelief.
He lent his voice to narrating A River Runs Through It (1992), but it was Indecent Proposal (1993) that really caught people’s attention. If you don’t remember the premise, he played an eccentric billionaire who sees a young married couple being affectionate and it prompts him to enter their lives with an indecent proposal — if they agree to let him sleep with the wife for one night, he’ll give them $1,000,000. He’s a bit sleazy with his offer, which is not his normal pure, ethical character choice. And a large number of late night comedians made the same joke — most wives would waive the money for a chance to sleep with Redford. Yet there was a deeper storyline about the couple considering it and what even the proposal itself does to their love and marriage, regardless of their choice. I liked it, but I had three regrets … first and foremost, that they had spent too little time on Redford’s character, maybe other indecent proposals he might have made. Secondly, the pacing in the movie is off, with much need for a better editor. But lastly, I hate to say it, but Demi Moore and Woody Harrelson as the couple don’t really work for me. They don’t seem to have the right chemistry, and while Woody comes off as a relatively dumb schmuck, Demi doesn’t rise to the level of even Striptease.
When it comes to Up Close and Personal (1996), I really want to love the movie. Michelle Pfeiffer from my teenage crush days and Robert Redford in a love story, complete with a journalism / reporting storyline? What’s not to love? The plot, the dialogue, the lack of chemistry between the two of them, the camera work, the pacing. I come close to hating it, just because I had high hopes for it.
I don’t have strong views on The Horse Whisperer (1998), the Last Castle (2001), or really any of the next 13 years until he shows up in the Marvel Avengers movies. Where he has virtually nothing to do. He has gravitas enough to hold a senior position in the Marvel Universe, but it doesn’t do much more than a cameo would have done. Nor any of the acting roles until 2020.
As I said, I liked him best in the middle of his career, not the TV stuff at the start or the movies in the last 20 years.
My final rankings
If I reduce all of it to my five favourite Redford movies, I would choose:
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
The Sting (1973)
The Natural (1984)
Legal Eagles (1986)
Sneakers (1992)
And if I was to only watch one? That would be really tough. He has some really great scenes as Sundance including “I can’t swim”; The Sting is one of the best ensemble casts; and The Natural is sublime for understated acting.
I’m going to have to go with The Natural and Roy Hobbs. I don’t know that I would say Robert Redford is the best that ever was, but he’s in the running. If they are looking to bury a souvenir with him, I hope it’s a bat with a lightning bolt.
That’s a bit of a strange question, isn’t it? I went to a book conference; I was NOT looking for an agent or to promote a book; I had no real defined goals in advance. I didn’t ask “Did I enjoy it?” or “Was it fun / interesting / illuminating / horrible / terrible / no good very bad 4 days?”
I asked if it was a success.
It wasn’t cheap…registration was fine, $250 or so. But staying in the hotel for six nights at $179 US plus my flights plus all my meals, taxis, and minor souvenirs isn’t pocket change. I haven’t added it up completely but it’s probably between 3.5K-4K overall, Canadian. Which I knew in advance, not whinging. Food was a bit more expensive than I expected, with fewer cheap options in the area to get to, but I’ll come back to that.
But with the cost, and the experience tied to it, I find myself wondering of course if it was worth it. Particularly as this wasn’t a family trip, it was just me on my own doing my own thing.
And the trip was a bit of a test for me in three different domains. So if I ask if it is a success, I guess I have to ask if it was worth it in those three areas.
Professional development
The conference ended upfolding a bit different than I was originally expecting. I had never been to a BoucherCon before, and so I didn’t completely know what to expect. I knew there would be technical panels, book signings, meet the author speaking engagements, some gala-like festivities, and awards ceremonies. But I also had seen in past years panels where people talked about genres, favourite villains, etc. Stuff that would appeal more to “fans” of mystery fiction than to “writers” of mystery fiction.
I was interested in all of the above to some degree, and thought I would go experience it all. When the full panel came out, I was pleasantly surprised that it had more of a technical bent to the panels, more about craft than fans, and relatively shocked that there were so many breakout panels. There were over 650 speakers across the four-ish days (mid Wednesday to mid Sunday), with about 18-19 breakout sessions, 6 panels per session, and 1 moderator and 5 speakers per panel.
Normally, when I look at conferences — work or fun — I often look at the breakout sessions and get annoyed. Frequently, I see that two people I want to see are on at the same time, even though there are other opportunities to see them, and then some sessions where I have no interest in any of the guests.
As an aside, I approach the Ottawa FanExpo/pseudo-ComicCon with a very set formula…I go through the full list of guests, I give one point if it is someone that interests me and/or is on a show that I watch(ed) regularly. They will have stories that I will enjoy, no doubt. If they are semi-interesting, but not people I would worry if I missed them at a conference aka not a “must-see”, more of “could be good”, I’ll give them half a point. Then I total up the points, and if it isn’t at least above 5, I pass.
I didn’t really have that goal for this experience, I was going no matter what, although there were some “must-sees” for me for panels. Michael Connelly, for example, was someone I saw three times during the conference (rare to have multiple appearances, just the nature of his status). I really wanted to see Lee Goldberg, which I did.
But the real professional development measure is in all the different panels I went to, against four broad themes:
WRITING SERIES: Ensemble casts, kick-ass female protagonists, avoiding the pitfalls, maintaining storyline silos, romance in crime fiction, and tips and tricks for keeping a series fresh;
TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF WRITING: Avoiding the info dump (handling exposition), make ’em laugh, forensics, hooking the reader with great first lines, suspense + action + conflict in mysteries, writing legal mysteries/thrillers, dialogue matters, protagonists with flaws, PIs, reporters as protagonists, and writing action scenes;
WRITING/PUBLISHING AS A BUSINESS: Overview of the business, publishing undercover, the impact of AI, marketing and promotion, choosing the best publishing path, beyond the conference for learning/networking/developing, and taking a book to screen;
FAN TOPICS: How writing saved me, the series created by Edward Stratemeyer, interview with Michael Connelly, and Sherlock Holmes and his effect on the genre.
From the perspective of a “learning absorption” metric, either of the first two was worth the price of admission. I learned a lot about managing series, albeit not necessarily the answers to some key questions that I struggle with, mostly because of my poor networking skills. The technical aspects of writing? Awesome list, a bit uneven, but overall fantastic. However, the “business side” was uneven and a bit disappointing in places (although I have a future post on this that more than makes up for it) and the fan topics, while interesting, were all just light desserts in comparison with the initial feast. If it was just the last two, my professional development would be really low; I feel however that the first two did jump-start my muse. So, overall? Technical aspects were a success, even though I couldn’t have predicted that when I first registered.
Professional and personal engagement
On almost any metric except one, my engagement was dismal. I didn’t make any buddies for the conference, I didn’t have coffee or drinks with anyone, I had very superficial engagements with people throughout the conference. This was not unexpected. I hate large groups where I don’t have a defined role. And, to be honest, the first two questions for the conference tend to be:
Are you a writer?
Do you have a card with your book information?
Well, no. I’m not in that space. Yet. Nor was I trying to be in that space. I was there to learn, not self-promote (even though there are quite a few people who are in the same state of development but are promoting the heck out of themselves anyway). I mused in previous posts about answering the first question as a blogger, occasional unpublished short-story and play writer, non-fiction writer, and wannabe fiction writer in the future.
I didn’t find a tribe, I didn’t meet a writing partner or soul sister/brother, which is not a slam against Bouchercon. That is about me and my introverted nature when I don’t have a pre-defined role. I can blame some of my anti-social choices at the conference avoiding certain activities on the fact that a cold was kicking my ass, but well, I probably would have bailed on most of the same events anyway. I feel like I would have gone to the WW II Memorial though, that one was mostly the cold. But some of the others? Nah, that was me being a hermit crab.
However, there were three things that I learned about myself that I didn’t know, as a writer going to events and stuff.
Apparently, many new writers are afraid to show their work to other people. I thought that zeitgeist was mostly about people not sharing for the very first time with friends, and later, the fear of submitting to an agent. I didn’t see it as paralysing, perhaps because I did a writing course and was part of a writing / critiquing group. And I have to share my writing around at work all the time. We don’t “own” our text, it is almost always a function of a drafter with multiple inputs / suggestions coming.
I have never balked at sharing my personal writing. No fear, no reluctance. Not really. There were times where I thought, “Oh, I wish it were due Tuesday instead of Sunday, I left myself too little time to do a last fresh read before submitting”, but that was more about my wanting to get feedback on my best version, not on some aspects that even I knew needed to be more polished in the end. But, one of the panels talked about that fear, partly in terms of “where do writers go next” after the conference. Huh. I don’t have that, I thought.
Secondly, apparently, a lot of writers are reluctant to ask questions in large groups. Such as the panel sessions themselves. I never thought about it. I don’t have any problem asking questions. I paid my money, I was going to get my money’s worth, was likely kicking around in my head. But just about EVERY panel, I asked a question. Call it about 15 Qs overall. And I would say about 12 of them “landed” in the sense that it gave them something else to talk about that was a bit different. They had to think for a moment. Even Michael Connelly, who has probably been asked a billion questions from fans, answered my question about whether seeing his books go to screen, and being involved in the experience had made him “write differently” and he gave me a thoughtful answer (about it causing / allowing him to pace his books a bit differently and let the story stretch out a bit more than previously).
I have no reservation, though, about asking questions in large groups. Which is true at work as well, and maybe is carry over, or just a deep arrogance on my part. People at work joke that I regularly do CLMs — career-limiting moves. I have even been in a big session of 400 people, they open it up to the floor for questions, nobody is jumping forward, and an ADM has spotted me and said, “Hey, Paul, you’re not shy, and you usually have questions. Ask away!”. Which I did. I have insecurities, but that is not one of them.
Lastly, the panellists also talked about how some people are afraid to talk to the authors and panellists in the room. Basically, too inhibited or intimidated. The weird part is that such an inhibition is actually bifurcated in my case. Talking to a panellist after the panel, while they’re still up at the front of the room is really easy for me. Sure, I’m intimidated; sure, I’m nervous. But it doesn’t stop me from going up to introduce myself and ask a follow-up question. Defined roles work for me as I’m an analytical introvert by nature. You are panellist with info, I am attendee with questions, let’s talk! But if it was “You are random author at event”, then I suck at the small talk aspects to chat about you, your writing, what you find interesting, etc. I can exchange pleasantries about the weather, or which panel was good, but after that, meh. My social battery starts ringing alarms of needing a charge. 🙂
Now, if I divide the above descriptions into “professional engagement” for the learning and “personal engagement” for the socializing and networking, well, I passed the first with flying colours above what normally afflicts new writers and generally failed miserably on the second. Of course, for others, they probably were the inverse — great at socializing and sucking at professional engagement in panels.
It’s stupid, a bit amateurish, but I actually set myself two goals for the socializing aspect. My first was that I would introduce myself to Lee Goldberg and say “hi!”. I was really hoping David Morrell (of Rambo fame), Elisabeth Wheatley (aka BookGoblin) or Laura Burrows (audiobook narrator) would be at Bouchercon. I follow them online, and although David had responded to say he wouldn’t be there, I was curious if the other two might be. Alas, it was far more technical and mystery focused for either of them, I’m sure, but I had a goal that for any of the four that were there, I would introduce myself. In BookGoblin or Burrows’ case, it would have been simply to thank them for their online content. I quite enjoy their posts even if I don’t read their work. For Morrell, I read his thriller fiction and I love the story of a Canadian writing First Blood as part of his MFA program aka the equivalent of his thesis. And Goldberg, I read lots of his stuff.
I balked at Lee the first time, he seemed busy, I felt like a Grade 9 kid wanting to say hi to a senior. I chickened out and drifted away. The next day, I saw him standing in the conference hall, talking to two other authors, and I waited for a lull and simply introduced myself, thanked him for his panel the day before, told him who I was aka we interacted a few times on his social media as I’m the avatar of a frog, etc. Just brief intro and handshake and then I was off. But I did it.
My second goal was to do SOMETHING more social than what I would default to (aka nothing). So, after the end of each panel, I usually wandered by the podium, and if there was an author that nobody was bugging at that moment, I would interact briefly, just to say, “Hi, I’m Paul from Canada, just wanted to say thanks for the panel, I really enjoyed the discussion.” Or even several someones, including if I wanted to ask a follow-up question. I did it at least once for about 75% of my panels. Yeah, I know, it’s a pathetic attempt at socializing, but it is more than I would normally do, and forced me not to simply fade into the woodwork.
Now, I can’t claim that my personal or professional engagement was a success. But it was interesting to realize that several “weaknesses” that new authors have are not in my head. That was rewarding, I guess.
Personal autonomy
This last category is hard to label. Part of me thinks it is not about the conference at all, while another part says, well, its NOT NOT about the conference.
I am set to retire in 102 weeks or so. Just under 2 years. And the vast majority of my social engagement right now comes from work. At the end of the day, I am both tired and socially lazy. I am not good at maintaining friendships and I do not have an active social calendar outside of my son and wife. I’ve had lots going on in recent years, and it has hurt. Even the weak skills I had have atrophied.
So, I’m worried a bit about my retirement. Some of the things that I want to do are mostly things I’ll do “alone”. I want to write, I want to do more astronomy, I want to kayak. Yes, I can do some of those with others, but it’s not my style, and if I don’t push myself, I might have to change my name from PolyWogg to some form of hermit crab. Here I was, throwing myself into the deep end of a large group, and if socializing and making connections is the equivalent of swimming, I didn’t even tread water well enough to avoid drowning. Not a strong start.
I have also not travelled alone in a long time, yet I am considering a significant tour of North America. How will that work?
I know how I want it to work. I would like, for example, to travel say for a day or two, get to a new location, set up for camping in the van or trailer, and then spend at least a day exploring the area. Maybe that means looking up a kayak group in the area, seeing if they are having any meetups, and emailing to say, “Hey, just in town for a day, looking to kayak for 1-2 hours, experience level x, anyone going out Tuesday morning or afternoon and willing to show me a river / lake / pond etc.?”.
Or I look at Winnipeg, see that they have a RASC Winnipeg Centre, tell them, “Hey, going to be in town for three days, Tu/We/Th next week. Any events / viewings going on? Any one have a place to suggest for visual viewing of blah blah blah type of objects?”.
Or I look at Edmonton, see that they have a local theatre company putting on a play that I like, and going to see it. With or without finding someone to go with.
In short, I’m afraid that my tour degrades from an exploration of landscape, people, cultures (however superficial) and becomes me driving too much, lonely AF, missing Andrea and Jacob as well, and cutting it short because I’m doing nothing, talking to nobody, etc. Andrea’s uncle and aunt used to travel a lot, and were into squaredancing. So when they went to a new area, they frequently found local squaredancing locations and met fellow dancers to chat with, maybe share a meal, etc.
Now, I know in part that I’m catastrophizing the experience. If I’m in a bunch of campgrounds, it’s quite common for them to have group BBQs going on or a band. And a large campfire. Do I want to do something with other people EVERY NIGHT? No, of course not. That’s not me. I’ll likely do a lot of writing. And I like the idea of having a regular routine with jumping off points to keep things fresh.
I’ve mentioned, for example, that we have a friend who I would put in the professional tourist category. She travels a lot and she has this thing that they try to do three things by lunch every day. So that they aren’t wasting days, they do something “big”.
Extrapolating from that, albeit at a smaller pace, I kind of like the idea of three different styles of days…Day One would be mainly a driving day. Not crazy distances, maybe 5 hours worth over the course of the day. Up, breakfasted, stowed and on the road by say 9:30. Drive until lunch or so, with at least one planned stop to look around and take pictures. Lunch could be either in the van (self-made) or at a diner; dinner would be the reverse. So one meal on a driving day would likely be a restaurant where I eat in, too, even if I only chat with the server. No grabbing fast food and eating by myself. Human contact of some kind. The afternoon would be like the morning, a few hours of driving with at least one stop for photos. And have my sleeping location set at least an hour before dark. Boondocking, campground, whatever. If it’s a pure driving day, it has to end at a planned time. Our trip in August to BC had a lot of day ones. And if I’m the only one in the vehicle, aka no navigator or someone to talk to, AND I’m not planning to sleep in a hotel at night, I cannot string dozens of day ones together without putting my life at risk that I’ll be tired and bored while driving.
Day Two would be the opposite end of the spectrum. It would be a down day where I don’t plan on travelling anywhere. Sure, I might have to drive to a place to do astronomy or put a kayak in the water, but I’m not trying to advance the journey, I’m making sure I stop and see what’s around. We had a couple of days in Kelowna and then again in Vancouver during our BC trip, with relatively set experiences planned in advance. Kelowna was nice, but we didn’t do enough in retrospect. We all relatively felt that if we had just gone home from Kelowna at 10 days, we probably would have been content. Of course, Jacob liked the peak-to-peak gondola at Whistler/Blackcomb as the best experience of the trip, and we hadn’t done that yet. So there’s that.
By desire AND as a test, I explicitly gave myself an extra day and a half in New Orleans to play tourist with Day 2 style structures. No conference session to attend, nobody to meet for lunch or dinner, just me on my own, deciding what I would do. Before I left, I had these things on my “possible” list:
Wander around the French Quarter;
Go to Jackson Square and see the church;
Have a po’boy shrimp sandwich;
Eat beignets at Café du Monde;
Visit the Aquarium and take pics of penguins;
Go to the French Market;
Eat BBQ shrimp;
Go on a cruise on the river on a paddlewheel/steamboat;
Go out to the Bayou on an airboat;
Visit the WWII Memorial;
Do a ghost walk;
Do a cemetery tour;
Visit Bourbon Street;
Wander along Canal Street;
Visit the revolving restaurant;
Listen to live jazz;
Listen to live blues;
I have spent way too many travel experiences for work where I was alone and did almost nothing touristy. I went to my meetings, I went to my hotel, I ate, I slept, I flew back. I became a hermit crab. F*** that action. How the h – e – double hockey sticks can I even think about a four-month driving trip if I don’t actually DO anything besides drive? That is NOT the life I want. I want to kayak, see shows, and eat local foods. I want to experience regions, not just see the blacktops of roads.
I arrived on Monday at noon, and I didn’t really know what I wanted to do first. I needed food, and I went wandering. I headed into the French quarter, had an amazing milkshake, people-watched, went to Jackson Square, saw live music performances, ate a po-boy shrimp sandwich with more people-watching, ate Beignets, and headed back to the hotel while dragging too many snacks and drinks for the hotel room (I didn’t know there were markets closer to the hotel, sigh). I did four of my list on the first day, and got Vivian’s seal of approval as a good tourist since I didn’t even get there until noon! It was a great day, and I have to admit, I was really proud of myself that I didn’t just turtle. I didn’t feel alone, or that I was pushing myself outside my comfort zone. I just walked and had fun. I even talked to a family at Café du Monde, sitting at the table next to me. Socializing badge unlocked! (Just kidding. Mostly). I considered going on a dinner cruise, but I was a bit tired from the afternoon, and the heat was kicking my ass.
For Tuesday, I was thinking about a morning airboat ride, the Aquarium, and then either a cemetery tour, a dinner cruise, or the ghost walk. I only accomplished the Aquarium but I maxed my visit there. I even had a long conversation with the young guy running the penguin show and a future serial killer / lover of bugs in the Insectarium.
After that, I did eat lunch one day at the Creole House but had a simple breakfast option (the only interesting thing was Creole potatoes, which were breakfast potatoes with a bit of spice). Other than that, the only real exploration aspect was wandering on Canal Street.
I can claim that part of it was the heat, that was true. It was over 30 every day, humidity was 80+%, and it was very uncomfortable even at night. I didn’t really meet anyone at the conference to go out wandering with, and I’m a bit jealous of Lee Goldberg’s posts — he ate out every day all over New Orleans it seemed with his wife, and even though he’s been there before, it was a clear exploration. I would have liked to go to Bourbon Street to see it on a Friday or Saturday night, or even the French Market, but the general advice was you don’t go to either alone. I tend to ignore that advice, most of the time, but I didn’t feel very alert already, not a good combo.
As a test of my future willingness / ability to play tourist by myself, I feel I did great on Monday, okay on Tuesday, and nothing the rest of the week. I realized that it’s not a completely fair “test” though. Some of the things I wanted to do are not next to the hotel, so to speak, it takes effort to get to them and I didn’t have a vehicle nor the energy in the heatwave (the week after I left, it was down to 24 every day!). By contrast, if I want to drive around and go kayaking, in a van, I’d also have to stow everything for transport, go to the kayak location, get everything out and in the kayak, do the actual kayak thing, and then reverse the unloading process while also ensuring everything is dried off. Not as simple as walking to an Aquarium and buying a ticket to wander around an airconditioned exhibit.
I also didn’t worry about money on the trip. It cost what it cost. Even with paying too much for a lot of food in the area, with no easy options to keep the price down, like cooking for myself or carrying a cooler for the day…while we were away, we ended up buying a foldable cooler from Canadian Tire that we used the rest of the trip which saved my butt a few times to have something cold to drink after hiking or whatever. We generally drank our water bottles full of cold water and ice, at least one other drink in the a.m., something new / bought with lunch, and another 1-2 drinks from the cooler during the day. I didn’t even have a decent water bottle for the trip to NOLA.
However, as an aside, I did manage to travel way lighter than I have ever travelled anywhere in my life. Four undershirts, four polo shirts, three pairs of pants, two pairs of sporty shorts, two t-shirts, toiletries, my laptop, two notebooks, knee braces, underwear, socks, etc. I ended up with one more shirt than I needed (I bought two), and one of the pairs of pants wasn’t needed either. But it all fit relatively well in a carry-on, plus my CPAP machine, and my simple shoulder bag/purse. If I do the van thing, I will not have a lot of room for accoutrements.
Overall, I think that means my results were decent — I surprised myself how well I did on the Monday afternoon. I didn’t even recognize myself. Maybe because I was so excited to be in the Big Easy. I try to be forgiving on my day two (literally and figuratively) because I did do the Aquarium, a huge item on my list for the city. And as I said, I maxed that visit. I saw everything there was to see and then some.
And then there are Day Three options for my big planned trip. These would be short hops. Sometimes they would be driving plus an activity, or an activity and then driving, but would not be two long driving hauls.
I feel like my personal goal would be that a Day 1 would be driving x 2 plus stops for pictures (lookouts), a Day 2 would be two activities for the day, and a Day 3 would be one driving plus one activity. I suppose there would also be “write-off” days where I’m either sick of living in a van and staying at a hotel or it’s pouring rain and I’m just sitting reading/writing/doing laundry.
NOLA did worry me about two things in particular. The first wasn’t really a proper test but I spent too much eating out, even if I didn’t have an alternative in NOLA. The second was my homesickness. I video chatted almost every day (I missed one night as my phone was dead) and although free, I wouldn’t want Andrea nor I to feel like we had to chat every night while I was on the road. Maybe some texts some night to let her know I’m still alive, but I’ve read some other people’s experiences and chatting every night or whatever can make it seem like it’s a holding pattern — this is what we do until we’re both in the same city again.
By contrast, I was surprised how important my laptop became. I wasn’t officially planning to take it, it was on my wish list if there was room. But it saved my week…I would have been absolutely a TV watching couch potato or miserable AF if I couldn’t have written my blog each night on the day’s experience. It would be my intention to blog while travelling, even if only to stop me from vegging out each night before bed.
What was the question again?
I asked myself if Bouchercon 2025 and the trip to New Orleans were a success for me.
Professional Development — an easy yes;
Personal and professional engagement — mostly a no, BUT I did learn that it isn’t a complete crapfest for my other abilities in this area; and,
Personal autonomy — the first day was an easy yes, the second day was still good, but the rest of the week was not so much.
If I am truly honest with myself, I will say that it didn’t go as well as I hoped on the professional front but still better than I expected. And to be honest, pretty much the same for the personal side, even if I couldn’t sustain it for seven days straight.
So if I was worried I would implode and it would suck, I guess it was a success that was not the case. Next year’s conference is in Calgary, followed later by Washington, Minneapolis, and Miami. I doubt I will attend another. It was good, but I’m not sure it’s my pathway for the future for writing.
I recently found an article by Kevin Kelly about publishing that blew me away for the content curation. Free compared with $4K Canadian for the conference. That’s a pretty good return on investment. Stay tuned.
I mentioned in my coverage of Friday that I’m feeling tired, and that is even more true today. I fly home tomorrow (Sunday) and then back to the day job on Monday morning. And work has NOT been that quiet of late, lots of unusual extra work going on that my boss and staff have been handling over the last month, mostly without me. It’s time I dig back in.
Friday was a late night for many attendees, I understand, and things lasted until the wee hours. I was not part of those shenanigans, I am old and boring. And I don’t know anyone nor do that kind of thing anyway. I digress.
There was an early morning “Debut Mystery Author Breakfast” where a number of attending debut authors would get a chance to speak about themselves for a minute and introduce their books to the audience (if they haven’t been on panels already, for instance). The list included Brian Tracey (aka J.B. Abbott), Tom Andes, Faye Arcand, Valerie Biel, Andrew Bridgeman, Elise Burke Brown, Hunter Burke, Chelsea Conradt, John Dingle, Laurie L. Dove, Leigh Dunlap, Wendy Gee, Amran Gowani, Walter Horsting, R.L. Carpentier, III, Elle Jauffret, Georgia Jeffries, Christy J. Kendall, N.L. Lavin, Andrew Ludington, Josh Mendoza, Jennifer K. Morita, Mark Nutter, Mark O’Neill, Joe Pan, Ryan Pote, Jenny Ramaley, R. C. Reid, Michael Rigg, Jennifer Sadera, Diane Schaffer, Amie Schaumberg, Rob D. Smith, Suja Sukumar, and Mark Thielman. Tracey, Walter Horsting, Ryan Pote, and R.C. Reid were on panels I attended, and I’ll get around to checking out all of the new authors’ offerings, in lieu of actually getting up early enough to attend breakfast.
I was hoping to attend Panel 14-4: Marketing and Promotion: Getting Exposure, moderated by Jeff Circle with panelists Valerie Biel, Maddee James, Riley Mack, Julia O’Connell, and Sonya Sargent. I used to be part of an online group called “Murder Must Advertise”, which eventually died as a newsgroup, but it had a really good base for ideas in the pre-digital world on how to promote yourself as a writer. Lots of physical ideas like bookmarks, business cards, postcard covers of books. All of which were in evidence throughout the conference. But recently, Kristine Kathryn Rusch posed the question of “What would a 2025 full-court press promotional blitz look like?” and there aren’t many lists out there. I was hoping to go and pillage the brain trust assembled.
Instead, I attended a panel that I thought was much more important: Panel 14-5: Traditional/Indy/e-book/Hybrid/Self: Choosing the Best Publishing Path in an Evolving Industry. It was moderated by Shawn Reilly Simmons with panelists Joe Brosnan (editor for small press), Nik Xandir Wolf (writer, editor), Kirstyn Petras (writer), Zelly Ruskin (writer), and Jessica Tastet (writer). The room it was set for is not that big, and I thought, “Hmm, this will be a popular panel, I should be there early.” I need not have bothered, as there were only about 35 people there, including myself.
I thought it was a great panel. The moderator is a publisher from an earlier panel, and she did a great job walking them through the advantages and disadvantages. And the panel didn’t exactly dig in on the definitions…for one, anything that is not the Big 5 is “indie” to them, and for most, they include any form of self-publishing as indie, although that is conflating a wide spectrum of offerings from “mini” press that pays advances to a la carte services. I confess that I really liked Kirstyn, Zelly and Jessica’s experiences that they shared with different ways of trying to go the traditional route, then going a different way. Zellly paid for a bunch of services that she knows she won’t make back for those specific books, but feels it is setting her up further in her career for future launching points. Kirstyn by contrast has found success through a podcast where her and her friend interview indie authors writing more darker tomes; she joked that her first book was a dystopian novel that she finished in February 2020 just before the pandemic hit when NOBODY wanted to read dystopian proposals. Jessica elaborated more on the long tail of her book sales (my term, not hers), that now she has 10+ books, they generally are turning a profit and still selling, which she finds surprising given that they have a very strong local/regional appeal. I tried pulling them up on Amazon, and it did NOT show anything, so I may have to do more concentrated / expanded searching. I chatted with Jessica and Joe a little bit after the panel about the long tail equivalent, and Jessica is aiming for 20 books before she thinks the long tail will tip over for her. For Joe, it was interesting; he said that he normally would only buy a book from an agent/author if he thought he could sell at least 5000 copies. But he didn’t say “by when” or over what timeframe in his presentation. With a little poking afterwards, he said five years was probably about right, although it wasn’t anything hard and fast.
I’ve had more time today to think about my expectations for the panel, and I realized that part of it was just my mindset. I think all authors should know all their options, always. To use Joe’s numbers, for example, let’s say that a press sells 5000 copies and hands you 15% on the sales. By contrast, self-publishing can get you much higher returns, with more challenging distribution of course, but might be 75% after some expenses. Which means you only have to sell 1000 copies to get the same revenue stream. So, for me, I think all authors should know those numbers before they sign their deals. And I talked to one person at the conference who works for a press, is in charge of many of the contracts that the authors sign, and she wouldn’t sign it if her life depended on it. People make money, and it ain’t the author.
So why weren’t more people at the session? I forgot. The vast majority of Bouchercon are published authors who were published traditionally. Of course, they have no interest in the alternative models, at least not now. I’ve been studying the market and the business model for almost 20 years now, actively engaging and poking people. And I saw one author who listed on one of her slides at a presentation the results of her publishing efforts. Her first 10+ books were rejected, and I have no issues with that, per se. But then she published two or three, and then had another rejected. Then she published another and had the next two rejected. Then, it was relatively good for several years before another was rejected. I think she had 19 published and 12 listed as rejected. Leaving my brain wondering, “What did she do with the other 12?” Did she decide that because they were rejected, they were now just “dead”? One of the biggest laments online, and in writers’ communities over the last 15-20 years, has been the midlist author who published 3 or so books in a series and then their big 5 publisher dropped them. And after that, most other presses won’t touch you. But they often seem to just “take it”. Oh well, the publisher said it won’t sell, so it won’t sell. What? You know that if you do a bunch of it yourself, you only have to sell 20% of what they would to make the same profit?
Now, today’s session was great at showing the pitfalls. Namely, that all the same things have to be done to get your books into readers’ hands. But, you really have three choices for every activity:
Have a publisher do it and take the costs out of your sales (most people often don’t realize this is happening, but it’s built into the business model);
Pay someone else to do it, either through the press or on your own; or,
Do it yourself.
A lot of people hate the idea of #3. They literally want to hand it off to someone else and protect the purity of their muse. They don’t want to sully themselves with the ugly production side of the business. I kid you not, there are some who think it is tantamount to sweatshops that are better not seen.
I should clarify that I seem a bit hostile and I am, but not for the reasons people think. I am not hostile because they denigrate the indie route; I am hostile because I don’t like people assuming there is only one model nor showcasing their approach as the best approach when the majority don’t understand any model except the one they used.
For me, it is like someone saying you should never buy a used car, and that the only “business model” that makes sense is to go to a dealership, buy whatever they have in stock, and pay whatever the sticker price says you should pay. It is obviously not the ONLY business model nor arguably even the best. However, I may do that, or at least I have done something similar. But I did it knowing there were other options, what they were, and how they worked. And I didn’t pretend it was the best option for everyone. It was just the option for me right then.
I’m not rabid about it, though. This is not the crowd to expect that, umm, enlightened discussion of all possible opportunities. 🙂 There are a number of independent writers’ groups, and they have conferences too. And if you go to one, you’ll likely hear that there is only one model, DIY, never consider anything else. People find their own tribes.
I’m agnostic about which model, although I know where I’m likely to land. For me, it’s entirely circumstantial. Anyway, I’m digressing. Good panel, like the three writers’ voices a lot. There was something odd going on with one of the presenters, and I would be curious if it was related to the overall approach of the conference. It is, by and large, about corporate entities running the publishing world. And he said, quite openly, that a lot of what he writes about, edits, and even writes music about is more ethical objections to capitalism. Yet, of course, he was there to talk about other options of getting your stuff out there but contributed very little to the discussion. I would have loved to go off and have a chat with him, to hear more of his perspective, but ’twas not to be.
Moving into the next batch of panels, my interests were starting to branch off in all directions. I’ve covered technical aspects of writing; I’ve covered aspects of the business model; now it was time to tackle aspects of the community. Panel 15-6: Beyond the Conference: Write, Learn, Connect was moderated by Kathleen Antrim with panelists Allison Brennan, Harry Hunsicker, Shirley Jump, DP Lyle, and Douglas Pratt.
So. Let’s see. How to put this. I guess, I’ll use the general thrust that almost everyone in the community does. Basically, there are lots of people in the industry who have tread the same path and trails you are on, and they are happy to share with you their map and locations of handholds to help you get the next level. Generally speaking, it’s true. There is a very welcoming community out there. I overheard two guys talking later in the corridors, and the one guy was flabbergasted. He said that he had come for the first time, was looking to get into writing, and was a Type-A hard core ex-military guy who expected a bunch of backstabbing / office-politic-playing civilians. Instead, he met a ton of people who said, “Hey, you sound cool, you have ideas, how can we help you?” They gave him their time, they chatted with him, they encouraged him, and said, “Soooo, have you met my friend Dave yet too who is writing in a similar genre and he’ll be happy to tell you what he did!”. In short, he was expecting gatekeepers of publishing, not the open community of writers who would tell him where to start, what to read, how to get going, all for free with no expectation of anything in return. They were just happy to talk to ANYONE who wanted to know what they had done.
Which is generally true for anyone and you can find it at the conventions. But the panel was more about what you can do in between conventions. Obviously, they push people towards local writers groups, hopefully who meet in person. Mystery Writers of America, Nashville, Sisters in Crime, etc. For me, it is the Crime Writers of Canada group in Ottawa, of which I am a dues-paying but frequently-absent member. In addition, they suggest people find critiquing groups too, if they can. With all the potential for any critiquing group to be hit or miss.
For the panel, Kathleen, DP and Douglas are all active members of the Outliers University, which offers a lot of courses about writing. They were a large and active sponsor of Bouchercon, with part of their unofficial mandate to occupy the space for training with credentialed teachers so people don’t get scammed by people who self-published one book that was poorly edited and marketed and really don’t know what they’re doing, but offering to teach others. Outliers is not free, of course, but for those interested, they offered a huge discount on membership and courses. I’ll figure it all out when I’m back home.
Another strong resource they suggested even before Shirley arrived at the panel was Shirley’s own Youtube channel where she goes through and deconstructs writing elements. Basically, free tutorials and tips/tricks etc Things that she has learned that she’s passing on to others. That resonates pretty strongly with me, since that is the same model as my HR guide (well, except I blog it, I don’t put up YouTube videos. Yet.).
Now, if you go back a paragraph or two, you see me hesitating on how to describe what looks like very simple and straightforward approaches. It isn’t that I don’t think they’re legit; it’s more that they fit very well with specific types of personalities, and not necessarily so much with others.
Let me digress for a moment. I love the Insights Discovery model of personality profile types for Analytical Introverts (Blue), Analytical Extroverts (Red), Intuitive Introverts (Green) and Intuitive Extroverts (Yellow).
Conferences, by and large, are huge gold mines for the extroverts — the type A reds and the sunshine yellows. Clear goals to panels and events, lots of interaction, they’re in heaven. Analytical introverts (blues) do okay as they like all the info options, although they’d prefer a transcript or more consistent form to the panels. And emotive Greens? They’re in hell because everyone is running everywhere, and they don’t often feel like they have time to meet someone slowly one on one.
When you come to online training, the blues love it, especially if the material is circulated in advance and they can turn their camera off; the yellows and greens don’t feel engaged; and reds will only measure it by the outcome and if it is practical.
For the various writing groups, greens are often first in line, except that they can find it intimidating if there are more than about 3-4 people, and they don’t particularly like receiving or giving negative feedback. Yellows want more people, blues want to just share it by email, and reds want to run the group.
Those are all gross exaggerations, of course. And based on stereotypes of broad personality traits, of which we have all four colours at once. However, the point is that I feel the “push” to find your tribe seems to think you can or should consider all of them, that they are all good, and it is more about what’s easiest for you. Not necessarily at times what is RIGHT for you, as it assumes all formats and approaches are good. That’s a hard nuance though to convey, as they (the proverbial they) all say, “Find what works for you.” I just feel that they often assume that all of them are good and all of them are interchangeable. And I really don’t think they are.
Take me, for example. At some point, in the next week or so, I’m going to ask myself, “Was Bouchercon worth it for me?”. And that will generate a very complicated answer. I came to observe, and I did. Maybe I should have had a slightly different approach than just “sit and see”. I talked to people, but I didn’t make any connections. I doubt anyone that I spoke to would remember my last name, for example, and I had no card with me that I was trying to promote such a connection. Which is stupid in a way. I have PolyWogg business cards. Sitting on a shelf at home, rarely used. I could easily have brought some, never really thought about it. Cuz I feel like I’m two years away. Yet I digress. I’ll answer that later.
The point is that I will not be the only person who would potentially feel far more overwhelmed by the conference, not an opportunity to network that they would embrace. I mentioned yesterday that I didn’t introduce myself to Lee Goldberg even though we’ve interacted on social media a few times, etc. A few comments here and there. But I felt like a kid with the adults, and I might be bothering him somehow. I chickened out. Except today, I saw him standing with Ace Atkins (I didn’t realize it was him, the guy who took over the Spenser series!!!!!!), they were heading to the airport but killing some time first. So, when there was a lull, I introduced myself, said hello, mentioned who I was (Paul from Canada, the guy with the frog avatar on social media), asked him about a conversation we had earlier in the week, thanked him for the panel, and wished him well. Nothing big, I just wanted to say hi. And I did. Yay me.
I would love to put Ace Atkins in a leg trap for a couple of hours, though and interrogate the crap out of him. He is living a version of something I want to do at some point, in the way the Spenser series works, but there wasn’t time to tackle him today. Next time, I hope.
Now, where was I? Oh, right. Explaining that I love the way the community says “Participate with us!”, except that for introverts, it would be great if they had a handy-dandy one-pager that said, “Here’s what you can do!”. It must exist somewhere, and if not, over the next two years, I’m going to build it. A framework of sorts (says the guy who thinks in frameworks) that anyone could look at and say, “Oh, yeah, well I can’t do THAT, that’s too scary or painful for me, but I *could* do THAT over there to accomplish the same thing in a different way”. Not surprisingly, there isn’t that nuance in a short 50-minute panel. But without it, it’s just a brain-dump for me. I’m not explaining it very well, I’ll have to noodle it. I did find it interesting that the panelists assumed two things about newbies that are not actually true for me. Two “weaknesses”, perhaps, that I don’t have or at least not in the form others do. I hadn’t thought of that in my noodling so far, but I’ll come back to it in future weeks.
After lunch, I wanted to go to a session called Panel 16-3: The P. I.: A Different Breed of Character. It was moderated by Nora McFarland with panelists Cheryl Bradshaw, Marco Carocari, JD Allen, Delia Pitts, and John Shepphird. I have plans for an extensive series of novels, and they are PI-ish, if not PI-like in most of them. I would have enjoyed the topic immensely, but it is also a question of priority. I feel like I’ve been researching PIs for most of my reading life, I don’t feel uninformed on the genre. 🙂
And I really wanted to go to Panel 16-4: Book to Screen: Worth the Journey? It was moderated by Jeff Ayers, who did a fabulous job in my view, with Michael Connelly, Tony Eldridge, Craig Johnson, Michael Koryta, and Dennis Tafoya listed as the panelists. MK had to bow out due to illness (I think) but Alafair Burke stepped in.
It was a highly entertaining panel, although I confess I didn’t take much in the way of notes. Mostly they shared their experiences with Bosch, The Equalizer, Better Sister, Longmire and Dopey. I found it interesting that in almost every single case, none of them wrote the series chasing the screen money. Not for TV, not for video. In most cases, it happened long after the fact and took a considerable amount of time, with many false starts. Although Connelly had talked somewhat about Bosch two nights ago, he elaborated on some of the experiences a bit more. Burke talked about two very different experiences, one for TV and one for a movie that eventually fizzled, but may still be able to be a TV show at some point. I really loved the Longmire story where Johnson met with the producers wanting to make the TV show. He said, “Okay, you realize that this is the lowest population town with a sheriff in the lowest population area…and you want to do a procedural with murders as a TV show? At what point is that going to start to look ridiculous?” (I’m paraphrasing, I didn’t do a transcript).
At the end, I asked a question that I intended for the whole panel but seemed to go to Connelly only by accident. I wanted to know, after seeing their stuff shot and going through that process of having it filmed, did it change the way they write? I guess I was wondering if it made them think more in “scenes to shoot” than scenes in a book. More pedantically, perhaps, did it make them write TV-friendly books to chase the TV money? Connelly answered in a way I didn’t expect. He said, yes, he DID write differently now. After having written for the screen, and seen stuff stretched out over several episodes, he now spreads his story out more than he had previously. I found that fascinating. As did someone else, apparently, because another audience member nudged me after the panel to say he thought it was a fantastic question and he loved Connelly’s answer as much as I. Umm. Okay then.
The last panel of the day was also the last one of the conference for me. I go home in the morning. So I thought about attending Panel 17-5: Who? What? When? Where? Why? How? Solve and Report or Report and Solve? The panel was moderated by John DeDakis with panelists Cindy Fazzi, Lori Duffy Foster, Elise Hart Kipness, Thomas Kies, and Lawrence Light. I wanted to go to hear what Kipness had to say. I have never met her, and I’ve never even heard of her before the conference. I saw her in passing at one point, and overheard someone say something about sports mysteries. I looked her up and now I want to try her books. She’s writing stories with a sleuth who is sports reporter-turned-amateur detective. I swear, it sounds like Alison Gordon’s books from the late 90s, early 2000s. I would have liked to ask her afterwards if she had read them, had modelled anything after them, never heard of them, whatever. They are a few of my favourite books, perhaps in part because I got to know Alison online somewhat before she passed away. We weren’t friends or anything, more just friendly acquaintances, which led me to read her books. Not a good look though as a potential conference goer, “Hey did you model your books after a dead author?” I didn’t think that one through but it didn’t matter. I went to another panel.
Panel 17-4: Don’t Pull Your Punches: Writing Exciting Action Scenes was moderated by Brian Tracey, with panelists Bruce Robert Coffin, Parker Jamison (aka Ox Devere), John Gilstrap, Ryan Pote, and Brad Thor. Two of the panelists have written 25+ books each, almost all with action. And I’m interested for two big reasons. First and foremost, the first book of one series I’m working on ends with a long fight scene. Kind of like a long boxing match that is a bit more MMA. And I have no idea how to make it work. I’ve never written anything like that before, but I know how about a third of it goes in scenes, not the mechanics. Secondly, for the other series, there are going to be some physical scenes. Not long bouts or huge fight scenes, but some physicality at times.
I took a LOT of notes. My notes include references to visualizing the scenes; less is more (in John’s case as he likes to end fights quickly, as does Brad in terms of finding ways to cheat and end a fight before it starts, using anything, even a car door); how to raise both the stakes and the tension beforehand; the limited thinking space during the fight, a monofocus on what’s happening; the terrifying nature of having a relentless villain who keeps coming, even if you already broke their arm; in a big battle, can’t really comprehend it on the page, but you have individual mini-vignettes / POVs that are certain characters and what they’re doing; use of dark humour within the action; ways to improve action just with format of shorter sentences and pacing tricks (this was in follow-up to a question I asked where Brad said he liked to throw away his first four obvious ways to solve something as too easy, and I asked if others had ways to improve the action if it seemed too soft or easy…Parker went to a technical writing solution which was awesome); and the extensive use of improvised weapons aka Jason Bourne fight scenes but particularly for women who can’t go toe-to-toe with bigger stronger heavier men. Ryan noted too that this was often driven too by a decision tree — fight or not; attack or wait; weapons or no; in close or stay wide; go fast or go slow. I really liked that idea.
However, I was REALLY surprised by the answers to another question. Brian Tracey was filling in for James Rollins, but using James’ questions. And one of them was what sort of good examples do they find in other people’s writings that they think is strong. I expected them to mention any number of good top writers. Robert B Parker did a great job with some boxing scenes early on in his books. I always liked all of them in fact. Clancy always did well too, imho. However, one suggestion was a book about a pilot shot down and all the stuff that went on in it (named Durant? I’ll have to look that up). Another was anything by Joe Abercomby. No clue. For gunplay, someone said they really liked Stephen Hunter’s books, which I think I have one of somewhere in my large TBR pile. Another suggested Mark Rainey. Again no clue. And the last one I didn’t hear (someone named Simon???).
I really liked the panel. I got a lot out of it, and I enjoyed their take on things. It dovetails with the physical side of the panel previously about kick ass women in mystery novels.
Soooo, that took me to the end of the panels for the day. And for me? The end of the conference, really.
The Anthony Awards were being tabulated today and awarded tonight. But I don’t know any of the writers, and I only voted in one category. I could have voted in others, but I have the same ethical musings that many Academy Award voters have — if you haven’t read all the nominees, should you really vote? I skipped all the categories except the anthology, as I did enjoy Tod Goldberg’s Eight Very Bad Nights.
There was also a late-night movie and music option in the ballroom, but it is not my cup of tea. Plus, I’m tired, and I am ready to go home. Even though the conference continues on Sunday.
I confess, I would like to stay for parts of Sunday. Or at least, I should say, if I was still here, and I had any energy left, I would do two of the agenda items. There is a set of panels left starting at 8:00 a.m. in the morning and another set at 9:30, and I didn’t get a chance to really hone which of the first four would have made my pick out of six nor which of the three of six would have been my pick at 9:30:
Panel 18-1: The Appeal of the Amateur Sleuth
Panel 18-3: It’s All About the Story: Deciding What Works and What Doesn’t
Panel 18-4: Marketing and Promotion: Podcasts, Websites, Social Media, and More!
Panel 18-6: Mystery or Thriller, Historical or Modern – Spies Spice Up the Plot!
Panel 19-1: Location, Location, Location: Place As Character
Panel 19-4: Crafting Surprises Without Misleading the Reader
Panel 19-5: Lawyers, Judges, Juries and Witnesses: Legal Thrillers and Mysteries
I would probably have listened to Marketing and Promotion and then gone for Crafting Surprises. However, what I would have liked to stay for was the 11:10 a.m. presentation of the Canadian delegation hosting next year in Calgary. I met the team at the table, and I was a little surprised by something. When I met them, I made mention of the fact clearly that I’m Canadian, and thinking about next year. But without really thinking about it, I mentioned that I also used to run conferences for the government aka I was a logistics guy at one point (I was talking about how I have tried to get Waterton in the list of considered options regularly). And in the back of my mind, I thought, “Shut up! Shut up! They’re going to rope you in to volunteer!” Nope, no pickup. Maybe cuz I did say I wasn’t sure if I was going or not yet. Either way, whew.
I think the one after Calgary is Washington, then Minneapolis, and then Miami (that was decided on Saturday but I didn’t hear if there were any alternative offers). Some people were very excited that the American dollar would go further in Canada and that things would be cheaper in Minneapolis. Nobody seemed thrilled about Washington (huh, I assume they mean DC!), although I heard the Miami organizers were pushing that they had a great rate locked in (4 years ahead!) and the hotel is right on a great beach. Sounds nice. I don’t know what I’m doing next month, let alone anytime in the next four years!
I survived Bouchercon 2025 so far. I’ll let the dust settle before I decide what to do about future years.
A morning departure, and I still have to creatively pack. Onward!
My cold is proving more manageable with antihistamines kicking its ass temporarily, and it should keep me going until it’s time to go home on Sunday. If today is Friday, it must be day 3 of #Boucheron2025 in New Orleans!
The ninth set of panels started at 9:00 a.m., and I was all set for Panel 9-1: Multiple Series: Maintaining Storyline Silos. As I mentioned yesterday, I have plans for one pseudo-fantasy series and it will not interact with anything else. However, I am interested in a second series where a bunch of the characters WILL intersect, and there might be three or four mini-series within a larger series universe (yeah, kind of like the Avengers movies without superheroes of course). So, I was keen for the topic. But I also stalk Lee Goldberg online and I was really looking forward to what he had to say about his various series — Monk, Diagnosis Murder, stuff with Janet Evanovich, three active series now, TV shows out the wazoo, he’s got it going on. And his Facebook posts are frequently amusing. This week’s was about the word benippled. 🙂 A little fanboy-ish, I suppose, on my part.
Lee set the tone for the panel; he’s very articulate and way more type-A than I expected. For him, he very clearly couched most of his answers to almost any question from the lens of “It’s a business”, and the answer is invariably “whichever option helps you sell more books and make more money.” So, for example, when talking about various series and the potential to keep a series going on your own if your publisher didn’t want to support it anymore, he basically asked back, “Why would you waste time doing that?”. If it isn’t going to sell, you have more lucrative things you can be doing. It wasn’t exactly his terminology, but it comes to RoI on his time. He wants to spend it on the most lucrative series of the moment, or if necessary, the hottest deadline he has. The rest of the panel agreed with him, and, as most of the traditionally published authors in the building, who are all published, generally hold the view that whether to continue a series or not was never up to the author, they feel that they have almost no say in it. If you have two series, A and B, the publisher will inform you which series they would like another book for and when.
Some of the other topics in the session included concerns about time between books being a pressure while you’re working on a different series (aka the cadence between book drops); that historical novels generally take way more research and thus take longer between books; cross-promotion between books such as Lee has done recently (I asked if that was hard for PoV, and he said no, it was fun to write Eve Ronin but not from Eve’s point of view); sometimes there is pressure to go back to the old concerns about saturation or brand confusion and thus the usage of different names for different series.
I think I like one particular quote from the moderator, perhaps quoting Connelly, that the “character doesn’t work the case, the case works the character.” There’s a deep nugget in there, and I’ll have to give it a lot more thought.
I confess that my introversion today was at an all-time high. I wanted to go up and quickly introduce myself to Lee, “Hey, I’m the frog avatar that interacts with you occasionally online from Canada”, but there were other conference goers who wanted to network and get signings, etc. For many of the panels, I’ve gone up afterwards to at least one to say thank you, almost a mini commitment from myself that I will not just be a lump of flesh in the cheap seats having no more interaction than if I was at home. Anyway, I chickened out today and just drifted away as they headed to the book signing area.
As an aside, I have a dirty confession to make. (Looking left, looking right). I don’t want to get books signed. Do you know why? Cuz then I have to keep them. I’m also trying to be a paper-free household. I have way too many books still in my house; I vastly prefer the smaller physical footprint of digital copies. So I’ll read them and pass them along to someone else; if someone signs it, I feel a bit more invested in keeping it. Even if I didn’t like the book. But I digress. It was a good panel, and their views helped a bit with my conundrums. Gave me some direction…
As one of my series is legal-based, I would have loved to check out Panel 9-2: Objection! More Courtroom Drama, Please! It was one of the few panel sets where I was torn. Lee was an obvious draw, so I went that way, but would have been more conflicted without his presence.
The tenth panels started at 10:30, and I was a bit conflicted again. I considered Panel 10-3: Dialog Matters: Slang, Concise, or Verbose? as I need to improve my dialogue skills, and Bruce DeSilva was part of the list of panelists. I like his work a lot.
However, I decided to make a non-technical, totally emotional commitment as a fan. Panel 10-6: Elementary! The Sherlock Effect had Liese Sherwood-Fabre as moderator, and panelists Elizabeth Crowens, Kate Hohl, Kathleen Kaska, and Leslie S. Klinger. They did a great job, good background for the conversation, but let’s be honest. I was there solely for the fifth panelist — Nicholas Meyer. In the panel, sure, he’s the author of the Seven Percent Solution, one of the first truly successful non-original Holmes stories. Add in his other writing, directing of Star Trek movies, and a long career of creative pursuits, almost all legendary in their own right, and hell yeah, I had to go to that session.
The overall intent of the panel was to talk about what effects Sherlock Holmes as a character had on the genre of mystery writing, and there were lots of questions about who played him best, who was the best Watson, did Sir Arthur Conan Doyle know what he was creating when he started, etc. As you can imagine, there are differing views on all of that, and Meyer was hysterical with his very dry wit about certain aspects. Then, he would follow up his humour with an elegant reference to how Holmes and Watson were really just a reimagining of Cervantes’ characters, or how Oedipus was really a detective. I confess that I took very little in the way of notes; that was not my reason for attending. It was just to watch and be entertained. And to watch how the rest of the crowd and panelists reacted to Meyer, too. Such an icon.
I did find something interesting, almost unrelated. They were talking about whether Holmes’ “flaws” were important to the character, and arguably made him human. And I got to thinking about the classic issue in personal development for careers…how every strength can become a weakness due to over-reliance and every weakness a strength. And I started to wonder if they are indeed separate traits…was his hyper-cerebral deductive skills merely the strength that leads to his weakness with people skills? Could you have one without the other? On a completely unrelated note, it got me thinking in part about management styles. I’ve always believed that whatever traits a manager displays in crisis are their natural traits aka their natural management style. For me, I stop delegating, I stop trusting, I focus on what needs to get done and a lot of the time I focus on doing it myself, even when I have a team member standing right there who could help. I don’t think of delegation in the same way as I do when I have more time, or am less pressed. But in that strange unrelated consciousness, I was wondering if that is a natural state aka your minimum / reduced management style or is it just either a reflection of your strength/weaknesses in other situations or even unrelated, just simply the style you use in a crisis. I don’t know why a discussion of Sherlock Holmes’ flaws would lead me there, but that’s where my brain went.
At the lunch break, I came back up to my room momentarily, mostly to use the washroom and mentally regroup (it is REALLY loud in the lobby area). But I went for a quick stroll to grab some food. According to Google Maps, there is supposedly a McDonald’s less than two blocks from my hotel. Except I was pretty sure that I had walked that street area before and didn’t see one. Now, it supposedly closed at 7:00 p.m. that night, so potentially I didn’t notice it, but really? How do you miss a McDonald’s, closed or otherwise? There’s gotta be a big M outside, right? Anyway, I have been a little bit too reliant on eating at the hotel, and I confess that the price of food in New Orleans at any of the local restaurants or the hotel is higher than I expected. Many of the rates are higher than Canadian prices, before the conversion. It’s taking a bit of the fun out of the trip, realizing I’m burning through expenses for food. Even the local markets to get drinks or snacks, or antihistamines, are not cheap. But I digress. I also know that part of the reaction is to the fact that I’m feeling a little conferenced out today. One of the panelists in another session today basically asked if everyone was tired yet? There was a lot of agreement on that front.
After lunch, it was time for Panel 11-5: Publishing Undercover, moderated by Clay Stafford. I love this Texan’s voice and mannerisms. He is incredibly smooth and soothing to listen to, so I was happy to realize that he was the moderator. The panel was a bit of an echo to the panel yesterday about it being a business, and this was a discussion with professionals in the industry in non-writing roles (although they are also writers). The panelists included Juliet Grames (editor), Joshua Kendall (publisher, who arrived late because of flights), Neil Nyren (retired editor), Brian Sweany (audio acquisitions), and Helen Thornton-Gussy (editor).
I liked this session, for the most part, better than yesterdays so-called business panel. They had a general philosophy that publishing is a business run by non-business people. And so many of the internal stuff makes no sense to anyone. I confess I didn’t take a lot of notes, I would have skipped except as I said it was Clay moderating and he kept them on track.
There was an interesting perspective or idea shared by Juliet that was intriguing about early work by an author. Connelly had noted the other night that his first two novels were in a drawer, never to be read, because he knew they weren’t good. It’s a popular trope in the biz, that you should write a book, finish it, and then deaddrop it so you can move on to the next one. That it was a “trial” run at writing a book, and most people’s first books (not first DRAFTS, but first BOOKS) were not publishable. Juliet used the idea of Malcolm Gladwell that you build your expertise over time, the proverbial 10,000 hours of work, so that you know what you’re doing.
But I also found a few of the anecdotes interesting — from Neil, stories about books that they didn’t get and went on to be huge successes while others were books they got that nobody else saw the potential for and they subsequently went big. Juliet and Helen backed each other up as editors, with similar stories about intimate relations between authors and editors that have to go untold; Juliet summed it up as the in-baseball language of “We work for reviews, we live for acknowledgements”. Yet there’s a huge disconnect in the framework. Brian openly trotted out the classic “we are gatekeepers, hear us roar” mantra that they ensure quality, while Neil, Helen and Juliet basically showed that they don’t care much about the initial quality as they can fix that if there is a sense of control from the author, they know what they’re doing, they can build rapport with them, and that they show signs of a sustainable passion that will provide sustenance through all the
For the twelfth panel set, I loved the premise of most of them. Getting Forensics Right could be cool, and useful, although few of my books will contain much in the way of forensics. Another was on Damaged Heroes: Protagonists with Flaws, which could have dovetailed nicely with my thoughts about Holmes. My one series has a main character with a flaw that isn’t terminal or fatal, but it is mild compared to the trauma he’ll experience in book 1. The other series has a character with some hidden stuff going on, and that will generally remain unexplained for 12 books by which time he will have processed most of it off-screen, so to speak, or at least not in an explained on-screen way.
I was really curious to see what they might have had to say in the panel on AI – Enhancing or Replacing Human Creativity? Except I’ve read a ton of stuff online from the mainstream publishing industry and, well, I think they totally get it wrong. I didn’t want to waste my time having people complain about AI using LLMs that weren’t licensed, or people using it to simulate their style, or infringement of future copyrights, etc. That’s whitenoise compared to the real work that AI is going to just get better and better at doing.
I’ve written a bit about my experience before, but one of my series involves a really complex world-building component. So much so, that I almost need to plot out the arc over 12 books to make sure it will hold together. I feared I would never write it, as that much research before I ever write word 1 in book 1 is daunting. But about a year ago now, I was playing with an AI tool that had just been updated and released, and I gave it the basics of my world structure. Then I had it do some research summary against some of the parameters. It looked pretty decent. So I tweaked and played, tweaked and played. I had no intent at the time other than to give it a real world test to see what it could do. It blew me away. In about an hour of work, maybe less, I had condensed about a year of solid research into probably a day. Now, it’s not perfect, I’ll have to fact-check the crap out of all of it. But it let me test my “world-build” to see if it would hold together, and it did. It won’t replace all of my research, but it will give me a way to further test and poke the world to see if it will be sustainable over the series, letting me go back to researching book 1 and writing it, researching book 2 and writing it, etc. I don’t need to spend a year or two of full research just to get to book 1. It won’t write anything for me, never that, but it allowed me to test something in a way that never existed before.
Equally, I use it regularly to brainstorm. I work alone on a lot of my stuff, rarely interacting with others in the development stage. I haven’t found the right tribe yet. But I had an idea for something small a while ago, and I tested it with the AI prompt. I basically described what I was trying to write, gave it some good parameters, and asked it to give me back a logline equivalent. In fact, I asked for 25 logline options. Of the 25, I’d say about 10 were pedantic and pedestrian. Another 5 to 6 went in really weird directions that seemed almost like a language / translation issue. But of the remaining 10 or so, some were half-way decent. More importantly, though, a snippet from #3 could be merged with a snippet from #17, and another from #24, and voila, I had a logline that was camera-ready. Could I have got there on my own? Well, to be honest, I did. But instead of using thesaurus entries and a series of weird google searches, I had the AI tool give me some ideas to work with. It wasn’t enough to get me all the way there, but it was enough to fire off my original synapses and get me to see, “Hey, THAT’s a great element to highlight”, for example.
I would like to think there were more examples of that type of positive usage, but I haven’t seen any of it online in over 200 stories about authors and AI, so I wasn’t optimistic.
Instead, I went sideways. One of my series has a “will they or won’t they” romance component. I know how they meet, I know how their romance will develop over several books, I know how it will initially simmer over, I know the right turn it will take, I know the trauma that will follow for both of them. And I have absolutely no freaking clue how it will be fixed, but I know it will have several false starts. That’s a lot to know, right? So, why was I so interested in Panel 12-4: Romance in Crime Fiction: Essential or Distraction?
Mainly because I wanted to know about false starts and wrong directions. And who better to talk about that than Charlaine Harris, author of the Sookie Stackhouse books that served as inspiration for the TV series, True Blood. The moderator of the panel was Teresa Michael, and the other panelists were Mary Dixie Carter (yes, the daughter of Dixie Carter), Celeste Connally, Jenny Dandy, and Jenny Milchman. I’m unsure why I know Jenny Milchman’s name. None of her books are ones that I have read, I’m not even sure I recognize their titles or the series, but her name is very familiar to me. Maybe she’s in my TBR pile, but I digress. I really wanted to hear Charlaine talk about what happens when a meet-cute goes badly afterwards.
Cuz Sookie Stackhouse? She’s a disaster. My characters are NOT that damaged or cursed, but any insights there would be welcome. Alas, Ms. Harris was ill today and unable to attend. Well, fudgicles. I was very disappointed, I confess. Although the moderator at one point referred to Bill and Sookie as a “meet cute” and the transcription service translated it as “meat cute”, which is a fantastic image for the Stackhouse books.
Without Charlaine, I expected the panel to be disappointing but it wasn’t. I liked the way they talked about a number of issues that my characters will face. For example, they quickly noted that romance may or may not be the right term. Partly as for some books, it is more of a spectrum almost of intimacy. Extrapolating from what they noted, sometimes it isn’t romance, it’s just sex. Or sex with a goal or end in mind (blackmail, seduction, manipulation). Or maybe it is a distraction, literally and figuratively in the plot. Or something that is “extra” in the book, but delightedly so. Or a core element that is integral to the plot.
Another idea was that you could also see it as either two plots (A and B), where one stream was the main story and one stream where it is the subplot that might continue in the series. Or that it is the backstory that reveals character development rather than simply who they are at work. Alternatively, it could be a plot device to drive a story…protagonist A loves character B, and B is put in jeopardy and must be saved aka the heightened motivation. Intriguing too was the idea if there are two plot streams, they have totally different goals…plot A is almost always seeking Justice, while plot B might be hopefully/happily ever after (Romancing the Stone’s Joan Wilder, a hopeFUL romantic at the end).
Finally, they also noted something incredibly empowering. Since it isn’t a romance novel, it can use any of the romance tropes, and then completely bust all of the rules of that trope. Cuz it’s a mystery, not a romance. TBH, I never even thought of it as following any trope, let alone knowing the difference between Grumpy Sunshine (?), Frenemies to Friends, Golden Retriever (?), Meet Cutes, Sexual Tension, etc. I need to do more research on that to help me fleshout what rules I’m breaking and why.
For a mid-afternoon break, I wandered down to the lobby and OMG, they were serving SNOBALLS. So, it’s basically a snocone in a cup, and I love anything with crushed ice, from slushees to simple drinks to snocones. I wanted blue raspberry but they only had that in a premixed alcohol format. Yes, there are tons of snocone things all over NOLA, and most of them are alcohol-based. I settled for Strawberry for a mid-afternoon refreshment. I felt like I should be sitting on a verandah somewhere rocking in a chair.
My last panel of the day was Panel 13-3: Tips and Tricks for Keeping a Series Fresh. It was moderated by Deborah Dobbs with panelists Anne Cleeland, Marcy McCreary, Jeffrey Siger, Charles Todd, and Tessa Wegert. As much as I was interested in their various stories (including some series with 20+ books), this was more of a smash-and-grab — I was willing to pillage to steal any ideas I could from them since one series will have a minimum of 12 books but with a set of 12 villains that almost write themselves (hah!), but the other series will run about 10 books or so and I’m not entirely sure about the crimes in each of those. So I’m looking for ways to keep any series fresh.
Here’s what I pillaged as ideas — change locations in the book (one in Greece is all over Greece; one in England is all over England); change the initial setup so new characters can enter and exit (one is a child advocate); change and modify the family dynamics over time (mother in book 1, father in book 2, mother and father in book 3); stretch some element of the backstory and dig into it in a future book (mining for hidden gold!); add a prequel; do a flashback with multiple storylines; or go the opposite way and freeze time (so they don’t age at same rate as publication, like Sue Grafton with Kinsey Milhone). One element that struck me as risky was experimenting with different sub-genres. I get the premise, and it will keep the books fresh, but it also seems to me like a really good way to tick off a bunch of fans who come for the “noir” and don’t want a “cozy”, or came for the mystery and got a humourous rom-com subplot instead. Jeffrey Siger talked about knowing what your audience wants and giving it to them, in a different point, otherwise you’re wasting time writing what won’t sell (sort of like Lee Goldberg’s point earlier).
I came back upstairs as my cold was sucking my energy, and I literally fell asleep for three hours. I knew I was tired, had to force myself to stop yawning at several points, but I didn’t realize HOW tired. I skipped Murder Mystery Almost Dinner Theatre hosted by Heather Graham with a cast of mystery authors putting on a soft whodunnit, mostly cuz I hadn’t decided if I was going or not — one of the guaranteed social interaction events that I suck at anyway — but I ended up sleeping well past the start of it.
There was an underrepresented authors’ dessert slash cocktail at 9:30, and I had planned to go to it. I wanted to show support, of course, and I am particularly supportive of gay and lesbian representation, it seems to resonate more with me (perhaps because of my time at Trent or UVic, I don’t know). It’s a little weird as a white male, but some of the groups resonate cognitively, like colour, others don’t resonate at all like disability as I see that as more individualistic than a group (mostly because of greater involvement with health issues for my own family, I think), and then some that resonate emotionally like gay and lesbian. There’s something perhaps more insidious to me in that, like discrimination combined with gaslighting or something. I can’t really explain it but it resonates more strongly for me. Some of my favourite mysteries are Tony Farrelly books set in New Orleans itself with gay protagonists, and I’m disappointed that she doesn’t seem to be writing anymore Margot Fortier stories. Now, if I knew SHE was going to be there, that would have been full-on fanboy time. Instead, I was still tired, and I just wanted a quiet night to read and regroup for tomorrow, which is my last day here.
Let the good reads roll…I’m a bit conferenced out. There were times today when I had my introvert response of “Ewww, people.” It’s time to wrap it up and go home. Is it cheesy to say I miss my wife and son? Oh well, I’m cheesy, nice to meet you.
I had a bit of a rough night with my cold. I woke up around 3:00 and I was really congested. So, I decided to take an antihistamine. As an aside, because of my diabetes and obesity (hey, a two-fer!), I can’t take most cold meds that are decongestants. I learned that the hard way about 15 years ago when I went to see a clinic doctor for a potential ear infection, only to find out my ear was fine — my blood pressure on the other hand was 162/105 or so. Heart attack and stroke territory. Because I had been maxing decongestatant with a stimulant in it. Oops. My BP had never been really problematic before, maybe a little high once in a while, but not alarming. On decongestant, I was JACKED.
In the day-to-day stuff, this generally only presents a problem if I forget to take some meds OR I get a cold. Cuz then there isn’t anything really good to take. Antihistamines help, but they dry my nasal passages out a little too well, and then I start wheezing or occasionally coughing like I have a speck of dust somewhere in my windpipe. With a strong gag reflex, we are starting to get into territory nobody needs from me.
But I took the antihistamine at 3:00, fell back asleep until 9:30, and finally woke up like I was doing a zombie walk the night before and the special K hadn’t left my system yet. Not that I know what that’s like, but as a wannabe writer, I’m imagining it with artistic license.
Anyway. I had missed Tai Chi (yay), some sponsorship rooms, morning speed dating sessions to link people in Column A of the industry with people in Column B of the industry, and alas, half of the fourth set of big panels. I had hoped to catch “Hooking the Reader” with great first lines, but I needed to hook my energy with some yogourt and a fruit cup first.
I made it to the fifth set of panels at 10:30, and went to Panel 5-4: Kickass Female Protagonists: Prince Charming Is Out of a Job. The panelists were Steph Cha, Tori Eldridge, J.T. Ellison, Taylor Stevens, and Nina Wachsman. I knew of J.T. Ellison’s work in advance, and my brain is mush as I didn’t realize Tori Eldridge writes the Lily Wong Ninja series (I’ve only read two of them). Steph Cha was new to me but she’s written the new series called Butterfly (Amazon Prime). I’ve heard of the show as it has Daniel Dae Kim in it, but I haven’t checked it out yet.
So, I’ve been thinking about something over the last two days of being here. People ask me if I’m a writer, and my answer is generally no. I blog, I’ve written my HR guide in web form, but I don’t consider myself entirely a writer. Not by MY standards, at least. I have written short stories, was in a writer’s group, honed them, and even submitted a play for a contest. By some definitions, that is enough. I wrote something, I submitted it. But it’s not really what I consider true writing. Which is more a question of degree for me. I don’t mean I’m not a writer until I sell something. Writers write. That’s the defining situation. But until I complete a whole book, fully packaged, where I say “It’s done”, I won’t consider myself a writer.
And when I talk about writing anywhere, I generally do not admit to many about my fiction goals. I have strong plans for writing in my retirement related to non-fiction, and I’m completely open about that. However, I am not normally open about two fiction “universes” or “worlds” that I intend to create. The first is fiction in a modern world, and I thought I would never be able to do it. I had a big breakthrough mentally last year, and now it is on like Donkey Kong when I retire. The second world is an interconnected one, centring around a lawyer turned investigator for a law firm, a friend from elementary school who dances on both sides of the law “line”, and two women they interact with during their investigations. Both are bad ass, in my view, but in totally different ways. One will be very physical while the other will be more methodical and cerebral; one is a rookie cop, one is a local P.I.
Sooooo, extrapolating back to my interest in strong women characters, I wanted to hear what they had to say about women who kick ass.
They talked about physicality being one component, but also how they focused on work ethic, importance of family, perhaps subterfuge of hiding skills and abilities to fit in, the importance perhaps of redefining it in terms of empowerment or more particularly agency and choice. They also discussed the importance of getting the tone and motivations right, particularly if they are amateurs, otherwise people are left wondering, “Why aren’t they deferring to the police?”. Tori Eldrige had an interesting take about how she saw Lily Wong as a combination of Skills (huge skills) + Motivation (strong) + a moral code (which drives choices but in turn also shows the impact of the choices made). The moderator asked them if the goals of their characters change throughout the series or even a book, and they framed it more as a layer of goals, with some staying static over several books, some being more dynamic, and some just being more narrowed/defined with sub-objectives for the problem-of-the-episode.
I confess that I have not spent as much time on one of the women characters in the series as the other three are in it from day one, and she doesn’t show up until book 4 probably. It’s a long way away, I know, but I also am a plotter, not a pantser (i.e., I will plot the arcs in advance, not write by the seat of my pants). For the one series, I have to plot out a 12 episode arc before I can even write a word as I have to be sure I have the rules of the world right from book one before I risk getting to book four and realizing I screwed up. It’s hard to describe, and I don’t need ALL the details plotted, but there are two serious issues that could go either way, and I don’t know which is the right answer yet. For lack of a better transparency, think of it like deciding in Harry Potter if all spells have a visual component or not or require verbal commands — can you “think” a spell and have the result happen or does it have to be verbal and a “spark” will fly from the wand to the destination? There are no spells in my plans, but you get the drift.
Anyway, I found their approaches to their characters interesting for not only the second woman, but gave me ideas on how to re-“form” the first one with more depth and backstory. A really interesting panel, and I like the sounds of some of their characters enough to check out their books soon.
At 12:30, the sixth set of panels started, and I opted for Panel 6-5: Suspense, Action, Conflict: Prime Elements of Mysteries and Thrillers with Colin Campbell, Bruce Robert Coffin, Audrey J. Cole, Jeffrey James Higgins, and Carter Wilson. Their moderator was a no-show for some reason, so they just did a bit of winging of the session. Carter raised early on the frequency of forms of violence in this type of writing, and he said it frequently drove him nuts when someone would get shot in the leg and then kept running. He recommended STRONGLY that anyone writing fight scenes etc to get Violence: A Writers Guide from a correctional officer to talk about what really happens during violent encounters. I’ve added it to my wish list from Amazon.
I confess that I didn’t really get what I hoped for out of the session. Audrey came closest at one point. She talked about how in one of her books, she did a flashback to an event 20 years before, and how people remembered it differently or at least had told it differently officially. But when she was done, she reviewed each section separately to see if the two stories were “complete” on their own. Extrapolating from that, I was wondering about mysteries in particular…if you took out the suspense and the action, does the mystery still work? Because if it doesn’t, the book doesn’t work for me. My books won’t be thrillers, and while one of them might have some suspense, the core is mystery and problem-solving. There might be some physical conflict situations, particularly for two of the characters, but they aren’t action films.
Instead, they talked more about the thriller aspects. This included the interesting consequences that can come from violence, the goals of the protagonist if they choose violence (hoping to achieve something), the nature of remote locations as pseudo-locked-room mysteries, extending suspense for the last 25% of the book with tone and psychological or emotional suspense more than physical, etc. Audrey also talked about the idea of not protecting your characters — put them in big, challenging situations, otherwise you’re not really taking risks with them or for them.
I confess that I was very disappointed with my next two panels, although not for any fault of the participants. They were all informed and helpful, just not in my areas of interest.
I attended Panel 7-2: Writing a Series: Avoiding the Pitfalls, moderated by Diana Catt, and including panelists Michael J Cooper, Margaret Fenton, Danielle Girard, Sulari Gentill, and Jon Land. As a future writer of two series, I was hoping for a list of things to avoid. Instead, it was more about how they handle their series, and often, the strengths of the form. To the extent that every strength is also a weakness, or a pitfall, I will be able to use some of it, but I took only a handful of notes. They talked about the need for episodic books to both standalone and propel the series, the risks of long series going stale if the main character can’t grow or overcome anything (not their example, but there’s a reason why sequels to Superman rarely do as well as the one where Clark becomes Superman), the time between books in series requiring some exposition to catch up the old and new readers vs. standalone books not needing that extra layer, and experiences with prequels (which were more often easier as the framing often built itself to include some things and exlude other things, particularly people they haven’t met yet). Even for historical fiction, both writers who wrote HistFic saw it as a strength not a pitfall, that the constraints of history helped them more than hurt them.
I was also disappointed with Panel 8-4: Need to Know: The Business of Writing, moderated by Marty Ludlum, Leslie S. Klinger, R. C. Reid, Shawn Reilly Simmons, and Alice Speilburg. I really liked the opening line by one of the panelists, I forget who, who quoted another that you either think of writing as a business or you let someone else spend your money. Like most of the sessions, everyone is in good humour, everyone is trying to be helpful without being potentially rude to anyone else, and I confess the tone wasn’t working for me. They talked about taxes or the need to be involved in promotion, but I found two things particularly disturbing. First, as someone else pointed out, all of this assumes the person is agented and going through traditional presses with contracts; nothing on self- or independent- publishing. Fair enough, the whole conference suffers from that complaint, it’s part of the Bouchercon world. Even 10-20 years ago, members were arguing about whether non-traditionally published authors could be on panels. That is an old issue, and while some want to raise it, it doesn’t really matter to me. I don’t care how THEY (the authors talking) got published, I know what my route will look like in the future. Second, something one of the writers said was indicative of some assumptions in the business world where I vastly prefer the teachings of Kristin Kathryn Rusch and Dean Wesley Smith. He noted that his wife was a she-wolf looking over his shoulder with his contract, protecting him, but she relaxed when she got to know the people. KKR in particular has written about this recently with digests — it doesn’t matter if the person you’re dealing with is a good person and would never abuse the intent of the contract against your interest; it only matters what the contract says. Because that person can die or get bought out, and suddenly the next person through the door decides to exploit that clause in ways you thought it would never be used. Every contract should be scrutinized from the lens of “How can this be used against me in the future if something goes catastrophically wrong?”. It’s a risk analysis, although that isn’t how KKR describes it, that’s my term. Probability is half of that analysis, sure, but the other half is “if this happens, how big an impact is it?”. Yet I think the biggest piece I found disturbing was that I tried to put the cat amongst the pigeons and start a rumble, so I asked what they as lawyer, writer, publisher and agent thought the other groups didn’t understand well enough about their piece of the business. Everyone laughed, as they should, but it is a serious question. What bothered me most though was the round-up that they are all part of the team supporting the author, which is great, but then they said the agent should be in charge of relatively minor negotiations and the lawyer just tells you what it says, but don’t worry too much because it’s all boilerplate and it “ain’t going to change much, if at all.” Yep, I can see why authors get screwed if the three entities — publisher, agent and lawyer — all agree that the author cannot negotiate any of the terms. The old “trust us, we’re publishers and we’re here to work with you” mantra is alive and well. I know that’s harsh, but I went to law school, I studied business at university, I read KKR’s blogs, the disasters at Romance houses, and I used to follow ThePassiveGuy when he was blogging. Plus I saw what happened to Paul McCartney, 1000s of other musicians, and most visibly of late, Taylor Swift. All people who sold their souls for standard language contracts they couldn’t negotiate. Not a good look, and a dangerous world to encourage people to embrace with their resting trust face on. They were all nice, I liked all of them, I would work with any of them in a heartbeat, but I would absolutely negotiate the contract clauses I care about, and if they have rights grabs, as most do, they wouldn’t be in any version I would sign. Even if that meant no deal. But it also most likely why I will never go that route for my business model. I would rather have no deal than a bad deal. To quote Lawrence Sanders’ Archy McNally, my flabber is gasted that anyone in 2025 thinks that’s a practical business model for any author to accept.
I was hoping for more insightful comments than general hopeful comments. However, one thing I really found interesting was the agent’s view about taking authors on who do not have social media platforms. For fiction, her view was that was okay; for non-fiction, they really want to see that right away and know where, how much, if you’re blogging, etc. I never realized that the NF side was so interested in that. I have mentioned that I have great plans for NF when I retire, and I have a decent following on my guides to date. I assumed no one would be interested in my musings in a publishing house, but perhaps I should explore before I take alternate routes.
At 5:30, Alafair Burke was doing an interview with Michael Connelly in the big ballroom. I was a bit surprised that it wasn’t even more full, but there were a fair number. She did a great job, and at the start, I had a brain fart. First, I didn’t even remember Michael Connelly had also done the Lincoln Lawyer…I remembered Bosch, of course, but my brain blocked Haller. And then when they were first talking, Michael mentioned that he liked to read series too, including those of Alafair’s father. Father, huh? Who is her father? Oh dear. How did I not register that Alafair Burke is the daughter of James Lee Burke and the king of Louisiana mystery fiction? Sigh. I will blame the antihistamines.
She did a great interview, obviously comfortable with him and with the loveletter style interview, walking him through much of his career. I knew very little of it, which is common for most authors I read. I read their books, not their bios. I found four things really interesting in the interview.
First, he had been taking engineering and not doing very well at it at school, and he decided he’d rather be Raymond Chandler, so his father advised him to switch to journalism to get on a crime beat and see how crime really worked. Second, he had some cute Hollywood linkage stories…He saw a movie at age 19 starring Elliott Gould that started him towards becoming a writer, and then with the Lincoln Lawyer show, Elliott Gould is playing in it. Equally, the real guy that gave Connelly the inspiration for a lawyer working out of a car said that he did well and lived in Malibu near Matthew McConaughey, only for MM to play the Lincoln Lawyer in the movie version. Third, he regularly stated over and over that he isn’t that creative. Much of the examples he used are almost 1:1 inspirations from real people. Lastly, as a softball question from me, I asked if he had any other acting plans after his cameo on Castle, where he seemed to be having fun. I had hoped he might talk about that a bit, open up a bit more. He did respond to say that one interesting thing from Castle was that he got to be a member of the Screen Actor’s Guild for playing himself, which he found amusing.
However, I think the most interesting thing he talked about was working as a screenwriter on the TV series. Alafair asked if he felt he was “exercising different muscles” and he said, “No, it was more like he was missing a muscle.” He found the inability to write what Bosch was thinking a huge challenge to write in just about every scene he did.
The night wrapped up with a Second Line Parade to the WWII monument, and some opening ceremony remarks as well as launch of the anthology for the conference. I didn’t feel up to the parade, and to be honest, I wasn’t feeling the desire to do the trolley even. I wanted to take a run at the Campaigns of Courage exhibit, purely as a tourist, but I decided a quiet evening around the hotel would likely do me better.
I grabbed a simple burger, read for a while, picked up some snacks and drinks as well as more antihistamine tablets, and then sat down eventually to write this entry.
And just to prove I was there for the interview tonight, here is a terrible shot of Michael Connelly and Alafair Burke.